⭕ The Internal Game: Building Unshakeable Confidence
Host: Will Carter (@TheWillCarter) with cohost Avni Mohindra (@Avni_Mohindra) · Date: Wed 29 Jul 2026 · Duration: 2:08:33 · ~9 speakers
TL;DR
- The weekly "Internal Game" episode tackled why confidence collapses under pressure, with guest life coach Sheshn (Sean Heshmap) as co-host for most of the session.
- Two working definitions anchored the talk: confidence as certainty in the likelihood of an outcome (Will) versus the deeper conviction in self — and the recurring theme that competence creates evidence, but evidence has to be turned into confidence internally.
- Sheshn shared a long, vulnerable story about attaching his worth to money, a house and business wins, then getting hit by a chronic illness that forced him to rebuild his sense of self from the inside out.
- Devin opened up about a childhood kidney disease (FSGS), dark teenage thoughts, and how signing up for football — despite being out of shape — became the choice that rebuilt his confidence.
- Running threads: fear as "false evidence appearing real" (Justin), the 10,000-hour competence-first argument (Judas), and the freedom of not needing others' approval (Cauvée, Avni, Will).
- Sheshn plugged his Sovereign Man Brotherhood coaching program (prices rising end of August); Will closed on self-worth being inherent and confidence being a learnable, experience-built skill.
Highlights
[3:10] Sheshn's three pillars of confidence. The guest opened with his framework: how you think and feel about yourself, self-trust (the "internal bank" you fill by following through on your word), and — the one he says male coaches skip — the ability to feel any emotion without resistance. "Worst-case scenario, you're just gonna feel some disappointment... but they're just feelings, they will pass."
[10:31] Will's two-part definition. Will separated the mechanical ("degree of certainty in the likelihood of an outcome") from the internal, which he reframed as conviction — "I know that I will always find a way." He later mapped Justin's competence/confidence link onto the four-quadrant matrix and the Dunning-Kruger effect.
[13:16] Justin's "I'm not even warmed up yet." Justin French tied competence directly to confidence, warned against putting your personal brand on hold (his 15-year mistake), and reframed the AI-driven layoff era as forced entrepreneurship where self-promotion is a survival skill.
[35:44] "Let the test be your testament." Justin's line on fear as "false evidence appearing real" and turning tests into testimony landed hard — Sheshn immediately said he was pocketing it, and Avni built on the idea that anxiety is "literally making up imaginary evidence in our head."
[42:19] Cauvée: does confidence actually disappear? Cauvée offered a gentle reframe — if confidence vanishes when you need it, that may just mark an earlier stage of the journey. He described diving into venture capital and realizing "you ain't even scraping the surface," arguing that the direction of the fear is the direction to walk.
[54:12] Sheshn's story of losing everything but himself. The emotional centerpiece: Sheshn recounted early quick wins, selling his house to move to Arizona, then a chronic gut illness with unpredictable flare-ups, 4 a.m. work nights, stolen laundry, an ER trip, and the realization that he'd been attaching his worth to what he had. "Can you still be solid within yourself? That's a huge skill to learn."
[1:09:20] Judas: competence before approval. Judas Phi Gates traced "confidence" to confidere (to fully trust) and made the case for the 10,000-hour path — become genuinely competent first, then worry about others' approval, because chasing approval before competence is where people get stuck.
[1:14:36] Cauvée on the cocky label. "If you thought that shit was cocky, damn." Cauvée's deadpan story about his mother calling him cocky, and a troll in a Space he happily answered with "I am fucking amazing," set up the room's biggest laugh — and the serious point underneath: "your opinion has no power over me."
[1:44:08] Will on rehearsal, self-concept and the Navy SEALs. Will connected fear and excitement as the same sympathetic pathway, explained self-concept via Steve Andreas, and described how SEALs mentally rehearse combat until it's automatic — "you can't intellectualize this... it must be experienced," physically or imagined.
[1:49:18] Devin's football decision. Devin's condensed but raw account of childhood kidney disease, Prednisone weight gain, dark thoughts at 13, and the choice to sign up for football anyway — "What do I have to lose?" — which led to five years playing in college. Avni named it: positive reinforcement from the people around him.
Notable quotes
"Worst case scenario, you're gonna feel a little embarrassed. But they're just feelings, they will pass." — Sheshn [4:36]
"People think I'm going hard for these last two years. I'm not even warmed up yet." — Justin French [14:39]
"Let the test be your testament and just keep writing your story." — Justin French [35:44]
"Faith and fear run the same fuel — imagination, conviction, and the belief in the unseen. The only difference is the direction you're aiming the fuel." — Will Carter [38:04]
"I am fucking amazing... if someone's bold enough to challenge me, I'm bold enough to respond." — Cauvée [1:14:36]
"Can you still be solid within yourself? That's a huge skill to learn." — Sheshn [1:05:13]
Topic timeline
| Time | Topic |
|---|---|
| [0:49]–[3:10] | Intros; framing "why confidence disappears under pressure" |
| [3:10]–[13:16] | Defining confidence: Sheshn's three pillars, Will's certainty vs. conviction |
| [13:16]–[22:24] | Justin on competence/confidence, self-promotion, forced entrepreneurship |
| [22:24]–[38:04] | Feelings, emotional maturity, fear as false evidence, faith vs. fear |
| [38:04]–[48:03] | Cauvée: leveling up, loving the challenge, "every level a new devil" |
| [48:03]–[54:12] | Growth = confidence; NYC on cricket, butterflies and belief |
| [54:12]–[1:07:51] | Sheshn's chronic-illness story and rebuilding worth from within |
| [1:07:58]–[1:19:00] | Judas on competence-first; Cauvée & Avni on others' opinions |
| [1:19:00]–[1:26:13] | "In the world but not of it"; Sheshn wraps, plugs Sovereign Man Brotherhood |
| [1:26:14]–[1:32:29] | Malika on failure, setbacks and cutting yourself slack |
| [1:32:42]–[1:48:20] | Healthy criticism, self-concept, athletes, Navy SEAL mental rehearsal |
| [1:48:20]–[1:57:46] | Devin's health and football story; rising to the occasion |
| [1:57:46]–[2:08:33] | Final thoughts: haters, certainty vs. clarity, self-worth is inherent |
Who said what
- Will Carter (host*: Framed confidence as certainty-in-outcome plus internal conviction; leaned on neuroscience, self-concept and metacognition; closed on self-worth as inherent and confidence as experience-built.
- Avni Mohindra (cohost*: Kept the energy and the promo going, pressed the "how do we stop confidence disappearing?" question, and reframed emotional intelligence, compassion and haters as projection.
- Sheshn / Sean Heshmap (guest*: Brought the three-pillar model and the session's most vulnerable story; runs the Sovereign Man Brotherhood coaching program.
- Justin "Results" French (*: Delivered from the gym — competence↔confidence, "discipline, data, results," get others to promote you, fear as false evidence.
- Cauvée (*: The room's charisma — VC beginner's mind, walking toward fear, and the case for caring less what others think.
- Judas Phi Gates (*: The competence-first purist — etymology, 10,000 hours, and confidence as a feeling of how competent you are at specific skills.
- Nyclsd / NYC (*: Cricket-based takes on butterflies, repetition and confidence returning after action; recommended Uncertainty by Jonathan Fields.
- Malika Lardjane (*: Football-team analogies on setbacks, humility over arrogance, and reframing fear as the excitement before the jump.
- Devin (*: Shared the kidney-disease-to-college-football arc as lived proof that trying — before you feel ready — builds confidence.
Worth a full listen
- [54:12]–[1:07:51] — Sheshn's full story. The summary can't carry the texture of the flare-ups, the ER bargain with the universe, and the slow rebuild; it's the emotional core of the episode and the clearest illustration of the show's thesis.
- [1:48:20]–[1:57:46] — Devin's story. A raw, unhurried account of health struggles and a single decision that changed his trajectory — best heard in his own words.
- [2:03:53]–[2:08:33] — Will's closing. A tight synthesis of the whole conversation: certainty vs. clarity, skills as learnable, and self-worth as something you were born with and had to be trained out of.
* some voices are identified from context; those names are marked as likely.
