NFTs — the Sunday NFT Show
Host: Makaveli (@MakaveliDlaCruz)* with co-hosts LoKi (@lokithebird)* and proofOfalphadgn (@the_alpha_dgn)* · Sun, 16 Aug 2026 · ~1h36m · 16 speakers
TL;DR
- The recurring debate: is the Robin Hood NFT surge "just another meme-coin meta," or is real infrastructure being built? The room landed firmly on "tools, not toys."
- Simple Farmer's stonk-brokers model (NFTs tied to a token) and Aaron Haber's Unvault (compliant royalties + omnichain) were the two builds everyone kept circling back to.
- Consensus that "NFT" is too broad a word now — art/collectibles, utility PFPs, licenses, tickets and on-chain IDs shouldn't be lumped together.
- Cap made the case of the day: legacy brands don't need airdrops or a new chain, they need to get back to experimentation and giving holders things to do.
- Persona's team appears to have gone dark, with rumors of a quiet sale.
- Warm, funny room throughout — the Warren/Warner "merged into one entity" bit, Papii's 75-year-old neighbor, and Loki reminding everyone this is a one-hour show all landed.
Highlights
[10:38] Does a Mancer's floor really track its token? AKYLLES, Makaveli and Loki dug into the stonk-brokers mechanic — each Mancer being worth a fixed chunk of tokens. AKYLLES argued that if nobody's actually swapping NFT for token, the two markets can drift; Loki and Makaveli countered that arbitrage keeps them glued together barring an internet outage. AKYLLES also made the softer point that "floor price" is a fragile concept when a few Sunday listings can drop it 40%.
[15:22] Pour one out for Persona. Loki reported that the Persona team has gone quiet across Discord, Telegram and DMs for months, with a rumor they're trying to sell — a sad turn for a brand he genuinely respected. Warren cheerfully admitted he'd never heard of it.
[18:00] "Another one bites the dust." Warren welcomed the newly-departed to Web3 with a hummed Queen bit, then explained that he and Warner had met IRL a few weeks earlier and effectively fused into one unstoppable bidding entity — "just war" — and warned the room not to bid against them.
[21:00] Tools, not toys. proofOfalphadgn drew the line between a meta (born of volume, gone when the volume leaves) and infrastructure you can build on. Aaron Haber backed it up: he, Ernest and Simple Farmer are thinking in five-to-ten-year terms, starting with the people already here before any talk of onboarding the masses — "I also have PTSD from the last five years."
[40:40] The 51% stat. M.R pointed to data (via Cap) that more than half of Robin Hood traders are profitable — a number the space hasn't seen since 2022 — as evidence something real is happening. Loki's deadpan follow-up: he's in the 49%.
[46:22] Cap's plea to legacy brands. Captain Zwingli delivered the room's centerpiece: he doesn't want airdrops or chain migrations from legacy projects, he wants experimentation and things to do — poker nights, allow-lists, six-five-five-ones (ERC-6551), the stuff that made 2021 fun. He stressed repeatedly it wasn't a shot at anyone: "it's an and, not an either-or." Jed and Shields immediately co-signed, reframing the whole space as "permissionless social clubs."
[1:05:28] Papii's neighbor. Papii recounted taking over his project a year ago with literally zero in the treasury, then landed the story of the day: his 75-year-old neighbor spotting the ape on his phone case and delivering a flat "NFT — no f***ing thanks." His broader point: projects are decoupling from each other and from the majors, and complacency (not the tech) is the real problem.
[1:14:21] Unvault, royalties, and touching grass. Aaron Haber walked through Divot — a compliant, opt-in royalty/marketing mechanism that lets any collection pay holders legally — and teased a run of partnership announcements. Asked whether one of those was sponsoring this show, he noted the offer was made months ago and that Loki "doesn't take human monies," before signing off to go hang with his kids.
[1:20:31] Abundance over PvP. Warner made an impassioned case against the space eating itself: "a win for one project in the space is a win for everybody." He praised Azuki's trading-card events, Doodles' toys, and people like Weizmann who show up despite not needing to.
[1:24:00] Unrealized gains and a 20-year meta. UnrealApe (collecting since 2013) reframed the moment as the beginning of something slow and sustainable — "slowly then all at once… have fun now, get paid later." Chazzgold followed with the most personal note of the day, tying his one-handed art and relearning Python to recovering from a traumatic brain injury, while building NFTs as individual AI agents (ERC-8004). Berlin closed the theme by noting Bitcoin and ETH are down ~46% and ~57% on the year, yet the energy is palpable.
Topic timeline
| Time | Topic |
|---|---|
| [1:51]–[7:49] | Cold open: no music, headaches, GM banter |
| [7:49]–[15:00] | Robin Hood NFTs; Mancer floor-vs-token correlation |
| [15:22]–[19:00] | Persona goes dark; Warren/Warner "just war" bit |
| [19:00]–[26:41] | Tyler Durden's "meme meta" tweet — tools vs. toys |
| [26:41]–[41:08] | What is an NFT? IP, utility, royalties; the 51% stat |
| [41:35]–[44:54] | MikeC: expand the definition of NFT |
| [44:54]–[55:06] | Cap's legacy-brands rant; back to experimentation |
| [55:20]–[1:02:26] | Jed, Shields, Warren: permissionless social clubs, "dasset" |
| [1:02:34]–[1:09:00] | Papii: decoupling + the neighbor story |
| [1:09:44]–[1:18:24] | AKYLLES on Bobu/CFDs; Aaron on Unvault royalties |
| [1:18:54]–[1:23:23] | Warner: abundance mindset, anti-PvP |
| [1:23:36]–[1:30:17] | UnrealApe & Berlin: provenance → utility, majors down |
| [1:30:34]–[1:35:xx] | Chazzgold's AI agents & TBI story; Loki's close |
Notable quotes
- "Another one bites the dust… Welcome to Web3, guys." — Warren [18:09]0:38
- "It's not just number go up. Sometimes it's giving us things to do with our community when we can't be together in person." — Captain Zwingli [53:40]0:38
- "Appreciate you, but you forgot that we don't run for three hours. We only have one hour." — LoKi [55:06]0:38
- "I had my 75 year old neighbor tell me NFT, no f***ing thanks." — Papii [1:05:28]0:38
- "Slowly then all at once, guys. So have fun now, get paid later." — UnrealApe [1:25:05]0:38
- "When the majors get back on track and start moving upward, the momentum here will be palpable." — Berlin [1:29:17]0:38
Who said what
- Makaveli (host)* — opened the show, kept the "tools on the tech" framing, sparred good-naturedly with AKYLLES on token/floor mechanics.
- LoKi (co-host)* — set the topics (Robin Hood, Persona, the Tyler tweet), reported the Persona silence, drove the "what do we even mean by NFT" thread.
- proofOfalphadgn (co-host)* — ran the speaker panel; framed the "meta vs. infrastructure" distinction and the tokenized-stocks onboarding pitch.
- AKYLLES — most technical voice: floor-price fragility, the Bobu fractionalization precedent, CFDs as an analogy for tokenized stocks.
- Aaron Haber — Unvault/Divot: compliant royalties, omnichain distribution, long-horizon thinking; teased partnership news.
- Captain Zwingli (Cap) — the day's anchor take on legacy brands: less "number go up," more experimentation and utility for holders.
- MikeC — argued we should stop lumping everything under "NFT"; NFT is the tech, everything else is a product on it.
- M.R — framed FUD as a predictable phase of any new tech; surfaced the 51%-profitable stat.
- Jed and Shills (Shields) — reframed NFTs as permissionless social clubs and lifestyles; Shields never leads with the word "NFT" when onboarding.
- Warren & Warner — the comic double act ("just war"); Warner delivered the abundance-mindset, anti-PvP sermon.
- Papii — decoupling of projects, bootstrapped vs. VC-funded, and the neighbor story.
- UnrealApe — long-haul "20-year meta" perspective; unrealized gains.
- Berlin — provenance-to-utility arc and the bullish read on majors being deeply down.
- Chazzgold — building NFTs as individual AI agents; shared his TBI recovery and relearning to code and create one-handed.
Worth a full listen
- [46:22]–[53:40] — Cap's full monologue. The summary flattens it; the value is in how carefully he threads "I'm not belittling anyone" through concrete examples (Chimpers' 6551s, Ape Church poker, protected royalties) into a genuine ask for the space to get playful again.
- [1:02:34]–[1:07:45] — Papii unfiltered. The zero-treasury takeover story, the neighbor bit, and the "regens go one way, quirkies go another, but we coexist" framing carry a candor that reads better in his own voice.
- [1:30:34]–[1:33:04] — Chazzgold's story. His TBI recovery, relearning Python from scratch, and the meaning behind his PFP is the kind of moment a bullet point can't hold.
* some voices are identified from context; those names are marked as likely.
