Builders Support Builders 🟦

Host: Waldo (@waldoforrealz) · Mon, 14 Sep 2026 · 2:15:35 · ~10 speakers on mic

TL;DR

• Waldo overslept the 1pm start, opened around 2, and spent the first minute threatening to rug his own Space out of spite for the audio gremlins.
• Avi (DubX)^* gave a build update: a ground-up layer-1 (~1.5M lines of code), the DubX token on Solana, a family-owned merch manufacturing arm (creators keep 80%), and a canned energy drink aimed at 7-Eleven/Walmart shelves.
• Panda^* announced that Panda Financial launched that morning — an automated Aerodrome liquidity-pool manager on Base with a keeper bot, sponsored rebalancing gas, and a whitelist he planned to drop the same day.
• A long, practical stretch on the content gap in crypto education: YouTube tutorials, Clipperoni clipping, and treating Spaces as a content reservoir.
• A serious PSA block on a repeat scammer ("Digital Outlook") DMing multiple people in the room with fake YouTube interview invites — and using Yucky Ducks branding on his flyer. Mrs. Yucky^* came up to confirm the impersonation and say it's happened to them before.
• Closed by handing the room over to Panda Pals Roundtable at 4:30pm EST, with a countdown that ended in "Oh, we're fucked."

Highlights

[2:44] — The host arrives, tired and threatening. Waldo's cold open sets the tone for the whole two hours: mic issues, a suspicion that the platform is personally out to get him, and a warning that he will rug his own Space if the audio doesn't cooperate. Toasty^* supplies the official excuse at [4:38] — the rest of us don't have the fancy drugs, the doctors, and the special chambers, so give us a break and let us have a Space. It got the first real laugh of the day.

[9:53] — The Subway pricing crisis. What began as sympathy for Mothman's minimum-wage sub-shop existence turned into Toasty's escalating meat mathematics: you can double, but you can't double the double, you have to double the first double, so now it's 4x and your sandwich costs $50 and you still don't know what you're eating. Brandon^* raised him to $60 for a six-inch. Waldo's counterpoint, delivered like a man revealing a state secret: there's a guy named Joe near him who just loads the meat for ten dollars, no negotiation required.

[28:46] — A quiet builder takes the mic for thirty seconds. A listener came up to say he doesn't really talk in Spaces, shouted out everyone building in the timeline, and asked to mute again. Waldo brought him up specifically to give him the chance and told him there's zero obligation — you can just hang out with us.

[34:06] — Avi lays out DubX. A layer-1 built from scratch (not an EVM or Solana fork), roughly 1.5M lines of code and nearly finished; the DubX token on Solana sitting around a $120k cap; and the merch side, which is the part that concerns the room — Avi's family manufacturing business makes creator merch, and the deal he brought Waldo hands the creator 80%. Then the bigger reveal: an energy drink in actual cans, targeting retail shelves, with powder and custom-flavor options for creators. Everything privately financed, no token taxes funding the build.

[38:19] — Energy drink R&D, honestly conducted. Waldo's history of monsters-on-road-trips and the resulting heart-skip madness led to a genuine product conversation, and then to the mushroom tangent that produced the segment's best safety advice at [41:38]: if it has gills, it kills; if it looks like a sponge, it's typically okay. Avi immediately undercut his own foraging credentials with "I'm kind of an idiot, make sure you know what you're doing," which the room enjoyed considerably. From there: the reindeer-ate-hallucinogenic-mushrooms origin theory for Santa Claus [42:35], and Lugan's true story of black bears getting hammered on grain fermenting on the train tracks outside Boston Bar, BC [43:46].

[1:02:18] — Panda Financial goes live. Panda launched at 4am after a weekend of no sleep and walked through the whole thing: a smart contract that mints the position NFT directly to the depositing wallet, a keeper bot on cloud that monitors ranges and rebalances (all rebalancing gas sponsored by the platform), and a dynamic APY range system that shifts positions between 0.5/1.0/1.5 pools depending on conditions. The origin was personal — he lost $30k when a yield platform he and a few hundred others used vanished [1:06:17] — and the fix is education as much as software: planned YouTube tutorials and a "little school thing" teaching people to run pools without his manager.

[1:13:50] — "This is what building looks like." Waldo's riff on the content opportunity: crypto YouTube tutorials are two to three years out of date, nobody is filling the niche, and three months of consistency puts you in front of it. Rocky^* agreed he doesn't have hours to record lectures — and openly invited anyone in the room to take his charts and alpha and put their own beautiful mug on it, because it's a team effort [1:19:25]. Waldo's answer was Clipperoni: drop an eight-hour Space in, get hundreds of pre-cut clips, run a content calendar off it until the next Space restocks you.

[1:25:34] — Panda on the flywheel of people. The genuinely warm stretch of the Space. Panda credited Waldo with talking him onto stages in the first place, noted he can x-ray a car engine but cannot make art or run a Discord, and described the network he can now call on for a banner or a technical rescue. He also shouted out Luke Youngblood of Moonwell, who offered help with his rebalancing problem for no reason other than years of seeing Panda mod their Discord and Telegram unasked.

[1:36:44] — The Digital Outlook scam gets dismantled live. WRX^* brought up a suspicious YouTube interview invite; Waldo identified it as a known scammer in about four seconds. Brandon had already done the forensics on this account [1:37:00] — profile says Texas, account info says somewhere else entirely, and DMing the guy a screenshot of all three mismatched locations got him blocked, which the room agreed was its own kind of confession. Panda offered the cleanest defense at [1:44:11]: never click their link, counter-invite them to X's own call feature or send your Google Meet, and watch what happens.

[1:46:56] — Mrs. Yucky confirms the impersonation. Stepping away from reading a Highlights magazine with her four-year-old, she confirmed the same crew tried it on Yucky Ducks when they first joined X, said people regularly DM to check whether they're really speaking somewhere, and gave the rule: if it didn't come from their main page or their actual mouths, it's not real. Waldo extended it to himself — there are clone profiles of him on Telegram and Instagram, one of which tried its luck on his own mod.

[1:52:35] — The scammer's opportunity cost. Waldo and WRX on the tragedy of well-engineered fraud: platforms with real guardrails that actually worked, torched for a fraction of what running them honestly would have paid. The example that landed hardest was the builder who rugged for 30 grand and then hopped on X to brag that he'd bought a new set of teeth with it.

Topic timeline

Notable quotes

• [2:44] Waldo: "If not worse comes to worse, we'll just rug the space. I just shared it out to everywhere, but I'll rug it if I have to. I'll rug this shit, don't think I won't."
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• [9:53] Toasty^*: "You can't double the double. You have to double the first double. So now you have to pay 4x, and now your sandwich is $50, and you're still fucking wondering what the hell am I eating?"
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• [41:38] Avi^*: "Typical rule of thumb, and this is not health advice… If it has gills, it kills. Don't eat the ones with gills. If it's a sponge, it's good."
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• [1:13:50] Waldo: "You see a problem, you solve the problem, you kind of just become unhinged about the problem and just keep building it until you complete it."
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• [1:25:34] Panda^*: "Everybody has you know some type of talent, and you know, we can all use and benefit from each other and you know one arm gives, one arm gets, and you know, push and pull, you know, nothing's ever got to be one sided."
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• [1:46:56] Mrs. Yucky^*: "I would never, never, never engage with anything involving Yucky Ducks that you did not hear directly from one of us on the main page or out of like our actual mouths."
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Who said what

• Waldo (@waldoforrealz) — host. Late, unbothered, and running the room: gave every builder the floor, pushed hard on education-as-content, and led the scam PSA with a list of the impersonators already using his name.
• Toasty^* — early co-conspirator on mic; sandwich economics, mom-and-pop advocacy, and the running theory that the platform simply doesn't want them to have a Space.
• Mothman^* — tinfoil hat, subway shift, and a brain he claims to have replaced with a fruit fly. Mostly a vibe, entirely load-bearing.
• Lugan / Glenn^* — Canadian wilderness veteran; brought the trapping, foraging and fur-trade lore (lynx, beaver casters, why parka ruffs are functional, not fashion) plus a lot of venting about follow-for-follow spam and "collab" DMs. Left early to go fight Vercel on his gaming site.
• Avi (DubX)^* — builder update of the day: layer-1 chain, creator merch manufacturing at 80% to the creator, and a canned energy drink. Also the room's self-deprecating mushroom safety officer.
• Panda (Panda Financial)^* — launched his automated Aerodrome LP manager on Base that morning; gave the most detailed technical walkthrough of the Space and the most generous thank-you list.
• Rocky^* — on niches and clippers; happily invited others to repackage his charts and alpha, and described the ecosystem as a beautiful ballet of moving pieces.
• WRX (Tin Hat Cat)^* — brought the scam invite to the room to be vetted, talked through Tin Hat Cat's relaunch on Base and the multi-audience appeal of the brand, and made the case that spaces like this exist precisely so you can cross-check a bad feeling.
• Brandon^* — the room's link sniffer. Offers to inspect anything sus, had already traced the scammer's mismatched profile locations, and holds the room record for worst hypothetical sandwich price.
• Mrs. Yucky^* — hopped up briefly, mid-Highlights-magazine, to confirm the Yucky Ducks branding was being used without permission and to restate the verification rule.

Worth a full listen

• [1:02:18] – [1:13:50] — Panda's Panda Financial walkthrough. The summary can give you the shape, but the detail on the keeper bot, sponsored rebalancing gas, the NFT-to-depositor link and the dynamic pool ranging is the actual product spec, delivered by someone running on no sleep and pure adrenaline.
• [1:36:44] – [1:50:00] — the scam segment, start to finish: the suspicion, Brandon's forensics, Panda's counter-invite trick, Waldo's history with the same actor's previous three accounts, and Mrs. Yucky confirming it live. This is the most useful fifteen minutes in the room.
• [9:00] – [12:20] — if you just want the room's comic register: sandwich inflation, escalating meat surcharges, and a heartfelt endorsement of a man named Joe.

* some voices are identified from context; those names are marked as likely.