# Re:Envisioning Web3 | Fireside with SimpleFarmer on ANVIL

Host: Jed (@jed_131) with cohost Lyss (@Lysss302) · Fri, Apr 3 2026 · 1:51:40 · ~7 active speakers

## TL;DR
- Friday fireside with SimpleFarmer (@OxSimpleFarmer), builder at ApeCo and self-taught dev, walking through Clutch Markets and his newest product, **Anvil** — an AMM that pairs an NFT collection with its own clean ERC-20 [26:02].
- Anvil mechanics in full: 0.5 ETH to deploy, recommended ~5% of market cap in liquidity (2.5% NFTs / 2.5% paired token), fee-funded staking pool, permissionless lending and governance, 24-hour unstake cooldown [48:22] [57:44] [1:10:26].
- Live numbers from his own Pixel Pups deployment: 42 ETH in NFT volume since Tuesday, 200k+ in token volume, ~700 of 1,123 NFTs locked in staking/lending/AMM contracts [1:16:03].
- Jed said publicly he's leaning toward putting Regens on Anvil — "if I can't find a hole by Monday" — with Crono, BeeCuzFuture and his devs stress-testing it over the weekend [1:26:02].
- SimpleFarmer also shipped an overnight **wallet/whitelist rating tool** that scores wallets 0–10 on flip behavior so teams can build a whitelist that doesn't instantly dump a free mint [22:54] [1:11:40].
- Alpha drop: **Civilizations Protocol**, a city-builder front end over token trading — five city tokens, a natural disaster every 24–72 hours, LP pulled from the damaged cities into the survivor [42:21].

## Highlights

**[11:25] Lyss opens the room after a week of nonstop Spaces.** She runs the welcome, rattles off the previous day's lineup, flags that Chris Vaughn is on tonight's Ninja Cat stream, and notes 32 days to Consensus with passes still available for communities, media partners and students [12:54]. Jed's answer to "how do you do everything" was characteristically brief: "unhealthy living" [13:19].

**[13:19] The Amazon bit is born.** Jed's framing of his guest — ships daily, has shipped something new overnight again — lands on a theory: "either a cyborg, an AI, or he has like three clones of himself." It becomes the running joke of the Space, revived every time SimpleFarmer casually promises a fix in a couple of hours.

**[17:21] SimpleFarmer's backstory, compressed.** Born in Bosnia in 1994, relocated to Germany as a refugee during the war, into the US around 2000 — New Jersey, then Georgia, then Auburn — followed by Russia, Austria, and now Cyprus. He got into crypto through Offchain Labs/Arbitrum, built on a layer-3 that later died ("it's not my fault, I didn't work for them"), and was pointed at ApeChain by Arbitrum before the team hired him. No CS degree, 100% self-taught [19:22].

**[20:32] Clutch Markets as a decentralized FanDuel.** One liquidity pool as the house backing every bet, polymarket odds ingested as data and converted into multipliers, parlays minted as tradable NFT bet slips — sell your slip mid-parlay if you're two legs in and nervous. The house pool cleared roughly 120k ApeCoin. He's now working with Ernest Lee of Board Counsel on regulatory compliance toward an iOS app [21:53].

**[22:54] The whitelist rater, shipped overnight.** After Pixel Pups, SimpleFarmer built a tool that pulls holders of any collection *and* rates each wallet 0–10 on trading/flipping behavior, so teams can whitelist 5–10s and skip the known free-mint flippers. He looked up Jed's wallet mid-Space: a 7, "rated a Chad." His own ApeChain rating: a four [41:58].

**[26:02] Anvil, explained and then re-explained.** The pitch: bots can usually knock a floor down 10–20%, but against an AMM they get two or three percent, and that arbitrage value recirculates to stakers instead of leaving the ecosystem. When the explanation got deep into fee tiers, governance quorums and lending, Jed asked for the crayon version [29:50] — SimpleFarmer's own verdict was that it sounds far worse than it feels to use [30:25].

**[47:39] Crono runs the adversarial pass.** The room's resident pessimist-by-trade walked through the decay problems other NFT-token hybrids hit, asked what happens when the token trades in a market that doesn't care about the NFTs, and got the key answer: the token is non-inflationary — nobody can dump it without first depositing NFTs or buying it on the open market [53:10]. His closing read: the downsides exist, but they're no worse than the downsides NFTs and tokens already carry separately [1:36:42].

**[1:16:03] The receipts.** Deployed Tuesday: 42 ETH in collection volume, over 200k in token trading volume, and roughly 60% of the supply locked across the staking pool, lending pool and AMM. SimpleFarmer's read on why the chart looks different from a typical free mint: "our floor is very sticky… the AMM is absorbing a lot of sell pressure" [1:17:08].

**[1:31:12] BoredAristocrat does the math on 250 Regens.** Having already tested Anvil with Jimmy's on Ape, he put it plainly: he can't think of a reason not to stake, cycle the token and corresponding ETH into an LP, and collect fees — especially given you can't realistically sell 250 of anything on OpenSea without wrecking the floor [1:32:22].

**[1:34:02] Lyss finds the human use case.** She connected the lending leg to something that had literally happened in the community the day before — people WETHing NFTs to scrape together funds for a mint. Borrow against the NFT instead, do the thing, get it back. Jed added the Blur-era version of this, where the sharp traders looped loans into Apes and back into Pudgies, with the caveat that Blur loans could be called the next day.

**[1:47:28] Jed admits the fireside part didn't entirely work.** He tried, on the phone and on stage, to get SimpleFarmer's backstory out of him and got "infancy to I just built this protocol." Lyss's diagnosis: "It was very Aaron Rodgers." Jed signed off with the thesis of the whole hour: innovation takes big balls [1:51:29].

## Topic timeline

| Time | Topic |
|---|---|
| [0:37]–[11:13] | Opening music and motivational clips |
| [11:25]–[13:19] | Lyss's welcome, week recap, Ninja Cat stream, consensus |
| [13:19]–[20:32] | SimpleFarmer intro, backstory, Bosnia → Cyprus, path into crypto |
| [20:32]–[25:11] | Clutch Markets, parlay NFTs, rebate program, whitelist rating tool |
| [26:02]–[35:21] | Anvil explained: AMM, staking, lending, governance, bot resistance |
| [35:21]–[47:02] | Base and Jed on token pairing, clean ERC-20, CEX path; Civilizations Protocol alpha |
| [47:39]–[57:44] | Crono's deep dive: inflation, arbitrage, LP sizing, decentralized listing |
| [57:44]–[1:10:26] | LP mechanics, multi-party LPs, bridging to mainnet, staking cooldown |
| [1:11:40]–[1:19:44] | Wallet rater follow-ups, flippers, Pixel Pups metrics, rev-share dashboard vision |
| [1:20:16]–[1:40:42] | Room debrief: Lyss, Base, BoredAristocrat, Crono, BeeCuzFuture on risks and upside |
| [1:40:42]–[1:46:52] | CEX long-term vision, LP sizing for DGen and Regens, top-holder LP plan |
| [1:46:52]–[1:51:40] | Housekeeping, backstory post-mortem, outro song |

## Notable quotes

- "I swear the dude's either a cyborg, an AI, or he has like three clones of himself." — Jed, on SimpleFarmer's shipping cadence [13:19]
- "I don't have a computer science degree, I'm 100% self-taught." — SimpleFarmer [19:22]
- "Supporting the floor price of your own NFT collection is probably something that all of us should be doing more of." — SimpleFarmer [30:35]
- "Hopefully we'll see the first NFT listed on a centralized exchange. That's the headline that I'm shooting for." — SimpleFarmer [39:56]
- "He said I'll have that developed in a few hours. So I'm telling you, he's Amazon. He's Amazon, he's faster than Prime." — Jed [1:12:26]
- "You gotta be pessimistic, you're gonna find it. That's the only way you're gonna find the exploits, you're gonna find the holes… That's what a dev does, man." — Crono [1:29:13]

## Who said what

- **Jed** (@jed_131) — host; drove the interview, translated DeFi mechanics into holder language, and openly walked the room through his own due diligence on putting Regens into Anvil.
- **SimpleFarmer** (@OxSimpleFarmer) — guest; explained Clutch Markets, the wallet rating tool, Anvil's full mechanics and fee structure, shared live Pixel Pups numbers, and teased Civilizations Protocol before stepping away for family.
- **Lyss** (@Lysss302) — cohost; opened and closed the Space, and acted as the room's translator — she'd already written a plain-language outline of Anvil and offered to run it past SimpleFarmer before any community rollout [1:08:09].
- **Crono** (@Crono1000) — the technical adversary by request; probed inflation, arbitrage decay, LP dependence and exchange listing thresholds, then gave it a clean read and offered the clearest "why this matters" summary of the hour [1:27:01].
- **BoredAristocrat** (@BoredAristocrat) — the only person on stage already using Anvil in the wild, via Jimmy's on Ape; reported on the UI, his own Camelot LP, and why staking beats listing for a large holder.
- **Base** (@Maximill15) — asked the sharp practical questions: is there any argument *not* to launch a token, base vs ETH deployment, and what exact LP sizing a DGen-scale collection needs.
- **BeeCuzFuture** (@BeeCuzFuture) — raised the one potential weakness of the session, around LP range configuration and getting priced out during high-volatility news events [1:36:33].

## Worth a full listen

- **[47:39]–[57:44]** — Crono's full line of questioning. This is the real stress test: what the LP actually consists of, why the token can't be inflated, what happens when the token trades in a market that doesn't care about your NFTs, and what the 0.5 ETH plus liquidity actually buys you. Any founder considering Anvil should hear this unedited.
- **[42:21]–[46:37]** — Civilizations Protocol. A roller-coaster-tycoon-looking city builder where an earthquake every 24–72 hours drains LP from four cities into the fifth, framed as "the most fair form of token trading which has ever existed." It's much better heard than summarized.
- **[1:20:16]–[1:40:42]** — the post-guest debrief. With SimpleFarmer gone, the room talks freely: BoredAristocrat's hands-on Jimmy's experience, Crono's pitch for reaching token traders who will never care about NFTs, Lyss on borrowing instead of WETHing, and Jed on why token sinks like rematch change the math.