# NFTs — The Sunday NFT Show

Host: LoKi 😈 (@lokithebird), with co-hosts Makaveli (@MakaveliDlaCruz) and proof (@the_alpha_dgn) · Sun, 19 Jul 2026 · 1:52:45 · ~12 active speakers

## TL;DR
- Cab (Cleanosaurs) walked through the collection landing on **Amazon Prime Video** — three short episodes now, longer-form content in the pipeline, with Amazon sharing viewership stats back to the team.
- **Adam Weitsman** joined the show fresh off being named to the **Yuga Labs board of directors** (his first week), and teased that Otherside "could really blow people away soon."
- A recurring theme: bridging physical and digital collectibles. Adam floated a founders'-fest exhibit piggybacking on Fanatics Fest; the room rallied around reframing NFT NYC as a "Digicon" for collectors.
- **Steve Starobinsky**, head of partnerships at Pudgy Penguins, gave a retail masterclass — Polly & Pengu impulse plushies hit Target that day, plus the Kaka Wow / Suplay entertainment-card deal for Asia (including a Luca one-of-one).
- A substantive debate on **projects buying their own floors** — Papii and Cab urged caution about "falsifying demand" and draining treasuries.
- Community was the emotional through-line: Chesus, Big Rugg, and Shills all argued the friendships and IRL meetups matter more than floor price.

## Highlights

**[14:31] Loki's week in review.** Loki rattled off the week's news: Cleanosaurs on Amazon Prime, Final Bosu launching its memo platform, Pudgy's Kaka Wow partnership, Adam joining Yuga's board, D Gods launching a marketplace ("DBay"), and Chimpers beginning to bid its own floor as market-making — "first time ever, at least publicly."

**[18:37] Cab on the Amazon moment.** Cab gave a heartfelt read on Cleanosaurs streaming on Prime — "it's what we wanted four years ago." He pushed back gently on the "it's only three short episodes" crowd, framing it as a statement that a good Web3 product can walk through legacy doors. He admitted he only truly felt it when he saw it live on the platform: "oh fuck, I couldn't have imagined."

**[26:15] Adam Weitsman on the Yuga board.** In his first week on the job, Adam kept it grounded — "I don't really hype anything up" — but said a lot of past decisions will be changed and that with Figgy leading, Otherside "could really blow people away soon."

**[28:38] Adam on the Normies collab spree.** Adam described curating burn-to-art collabs for Normies — ACK first, then Beeple, Jack, and Larva Labs — and noted the flywheel has flipped: artists are now reaching out to him directly instead of him cold-calling.

**[30:38] The "Digicon" idea takes shape.** Off Adam's Fanatics Fest visit, he and Mac sketched a founders'-fest where every major collection sets up a fan-friendly booth — Bored Ape's clubhouse, Doodles' Doodleverse, Cleanotopia, the Azuki garden — piggybacking the same day as Fanatics Fest in New York. Adam offered to build it for next year and pull the majors in.

**[38:39] Cab on killing the NFT stigma.** Cab argued the events skew too "already-in-the-know" and should be framed on the collector side. His line landed: normies "cannot get past the word" NFT, but "no consumer on the planet gives a shit what's running under the hood for YouTube — they just care that the videos play." YouTube frames itself as a media company, not a tech company; NFTs should do the same.

**[44:01] Chesus on why community beats floor price.** Chesus told the story of his 13-year-old daughter ripping open a FWOG pack and pulling a gold on the very first box — "she started freaking out." He widened it into a case that the friends, the tears on the phone, the meetups are the point, not the money. His deadpan tribute to a Wells Fargo exec friend he'd never have met otherwise drew the biggest laugh of the day.

**[57:41] Should projects buy their own floors?** Loki asked whether floor-support bidding (Chimpers, GVC) is a viable strategy. Papii detailed how real bids get front-run by collection-bidding bots and how his team built one that bids trait backgrounds instead — but warned about sustainability. Cab was firmly in the "era of caution" camp: pegging a non-fungible collection to its lowest denominator is "absurd," and buying your own floor risks "falsifying demand" and burning treasury you need to actually build the brand. A tangent surfaced the old Ape "Damn DAO" wallet still holding a hundred-plus grail apes.

**[1:11:50] Steve Starobinsky's Pudgy retail masterclass.** Pudgy's head of partnerships introduced himself and dropped alpha: Polly & Pengu impulse plushies launching at Target that day at $10.99. He explained the Valentine's pop-up that revealed Pudgy had become a "couples brand," the shift in retail merchandising toward faster 30–60 day drops, and the Kaka Wow / Suplay deal that lets Pudgy condense years of Asia market entry — anchored by a signed Luca one-of-one card.

## Topic timeline

| Time | Topic |
|---|---|
| [2:49]–[6:30] | Intro music, World Cup banter, warm-up |
| [7:14]–[14:00] | Speaker intros (Shills' human PFP, Atari, Big Rugg's rescued project, Chesus, Bosu kev) |
| [14:31]–[17:42] | Loki's week-in-NFTs news recap |
| [18:37]–[26:00] | Cab on Cleanosaurs / Amazon Prime & rising tides |
| [26:15]–[36:20] | Adam Weitsman: Yuga board, Normies collabs, Fanatics Fest / Digicon idea |
| [36:26]–[41:47] | Shills & Cab on physical–digital collectibles and reframing the stigma |
| [42:34]–[46:00] | Chesus & Big Rugg: community, physicals, why floor price isn't the point |
| [47:31]–[50:20] | Nuclear Samurai on Brain Rot's burn lab |
| [50:20]–[57:00] | Cleanosaurs cards / HEBO, Papii on Ant Academy account & OpenSea Solana |
| [57:41]–[1:11:20] | Floor-support bots, Chimpers, Damn DAO, treasury caution |
| [1:11:50]–[1:39:30] | Steve Starobinsky: Pudgy retail, Target, Kaka Wow, Target drops |
| [1:40:26]–[1:44:40] | D Gods' "DBay" marketplace |
| [1:45:09]–[1:51:23] | Bosu kev on Final Bosu's memo co-creation platform |
| [1:51:27]–[1:52:45] | Sign-off |

## Notable quotes

- "And then when it was up on the platform, I was just like, oh fuck, like I couldn't I couldn't have imagined." — Cab [20:05]
- "No consumer on the planet gives a shit what's running under the hood for YouTube — they just care that the videos play. But YouTube frames itself as a media company, not a tech company." — Cab [38:39]
- "I'm surprised he's still married with the money he's lost in the space, but it doesn't matter. He still shows up." — Chesus [45:30]
- "When I read tweets saying NFTs are gone, NFTs are done, dead, whatever — are you stupid or what?" — Loki [46:00]
- "Floor price tells you the cost of entry, but not — and perhaps trust — but not much else." — Cab [1:06:54]
- "Pudgy Penguins had become a love language for these couples. It was a co-fandom. And so we really felt like we had found product-market fit." — Steve Starobinsky [1:18:13]

## Who said what

- **Loki (@lokithebird), Speaker 03** — Host anchoring the week's news and steering topics; pushed the floor-support and marketplace questions. Calling in late from Asia.
- **Makaveli / Mac (@MakaveliDlaCruz), Speaker 05** — Co-host and hypeman on the decks; drove the Digicon vision and pressed Steve on card print numbers.
- **proof (@the_alpha_dgn), Speaker 02** — Co-host MC, kept the "rising tides raise all ships" and "shots on goal" energy flowing between guests.
- **Cab (@Cabanimation), Speaker 04** — Cleanosaurs' voice of the day: Amazon Prime win, reframing the NFT stigma, and the strongest caution against buying your own floor.
- **Adam Weitsman (@AdamWeitsman), Speaker 10** — New Yuga board member; championed cross-artist Normies collabs and a founders'-fest tied to Fanatics Fest.
- **Steve Starobinsky (@PudgyPartners), Speaker 01** — Pudgy head of partnerships; delivered the retail/licensing deep dive and the day's biggest product alpha.
- **Chesus (@chesus), Speaker 08** — Community heart of the room; the FWOG gold-pull story and the "community over floor price" case.
- **Papii (@RealPapii), Speaker 06** — Rallied support for Ant Academy's suspended account and gave the most technical read on floor-bidding bot mechanics.
- **Shills (@Shills_81), Speaker 07** — Back after a break (and a briefly human PFP); on-the-ground notes from Lisbon and the Cleanosaurs card experience.
- **Nuclear Samurai (@nuclearsamurai), Speaker 14** — Brain Rot's burn lab — ~944 of 10k burned in a week, collector-driven co-creation.
- **Bosu kev (@kevinfinalbosu), Speaker 09** — Walked through Final Bosu's memo platform for holder-driven canon lore and character co-creation.
- **Big Rugg (@ChiefNeckbone_), Speaker 11** — Rescuing a rugged project with a burn mechanic; big on TCG physicals bridging Web2 and Web3.
- **Atari (@atarigod), Speaker 13** — Raised the "10k supply is too big for the current audience" question that framed much of the floor discussion.

## Worth a full listen

- **[42:34]–[46:00]** — Chesus and Big Rugg on community, physicals, and family collecting. The FWOG gold-pull and the Wells Fargo friend land better in full than any summary; this is the emotional and comic center of the room.
- **[57:41]–[1:09:19]** — The floor-support bot debate. Papii's mechanics, Loki's framing, and Cab's "falsifying demand" caution add up to a genuinely useful conversation on treasury strategy, with the Damn DAO grail-apes tangent as a bonus.
- **[1:11:50]–[1:32:39]** — Steve Starobinsky's uninterrupted retail walkthrough: the Valentine's pop-up, retail merchandising timelines, and the Kaka Wow/Suplay Asia deal. A rare inside look at how a Web3 brand actually scales into mass retail.

\* Some voices are identified from context; those names are marked as likely.