# humans in the loop // 8004

*Host: Quigley.eth (@QuigleyNFT) · Wed 29 Jul 2026 · 1:16:18 · 6 speakers*

## TL;DR
- Quigley (@QuigleyNFT) returned from a break to run a session on **8004 agent identity** and how **Intuition**'s decentralized knowledge graph is layering reputation on top of it.
- Woods (@W00DS_eth) explained Intuition — a base layer-three "curation market" where any claim can be token-weighted — and confirmed **Helixa's first six agents are now live on the knowledge graph**, with more partners (Astor Pay and others) queued.
- Prem (@nxt3d) walked through his **ERC-721T** standard and **adapter 8004**, and reported the first project (Compass, by HARTO) minting ~5,000/10,000 while binding to 8004 at mint, with OpenSea support.
- The room converged on a shared thesis: of the "million agents" from the Moltbook era, only ~100–200 are doing real work — the mission is filtering slop and surfacing the cream.
- Kieran (@KieranOnBase) previewed **You Got Coined**, a Twitch-native wallet/streaming app on base; Goya bean (@goyabean_eth) showed off an **AI agent that autonomously buys Bitcoin hash power and mines** on his Parasite pool.
- Loose talk of a "humans in the loop" agentic meetup at Art Basel Miami / NFT NYC to put faces to the builders.

## Highlights

**[9:05] Woods gives the Intuition primer.** He framed Intuition as "the world's first decentralized knowledge graph," a base layer-three where every piece of data is token-curated — you stake to support or oppose a claim. He tied it directly to the agentic world: reputation matters most when you're deciding which agents to trust with payments.

**[16:09] Prediction market vs. curation market.** Woods drew the distinction cleanly: prediction markets resolve (who wins the election), while Intuition handles the *unresolvable* — who's the most trustworthy agent, the best pizza in NYC — via token-weighted community consensus. Quigley connected it to his own scrapped conspiracy-market idea and the broader misinformation problem.

**[20:55] Kieran and Bill on building through the bear.** Kieran, freshly moved to Miami, noted that the market slowed but nobody stopped building. Bill (@fvngbill, community at Intuition) added that collective trust is near all-time lows and people have gotten selective about which builders survive — which is exactly the gap Intuition's standards aim to fill.

**[25:42] Prem on agent NFTs and ERC-721T.** Prem recalled that a year ago "agent identity" was a punchline at conferences; now he's shipping standards. He argued the agentic data belongs *in* the NFT itself — 721T carries a context record, an agent endpoint, and multi-chain addresses — with 8004 acting as the discovery layer, "like an agent app store."

**[38:16] Filtering the slop.** Quigley laid out his through-line: from Moltbook's supposed hundreds of thousands of agents, "let's be real, there's probably less than a hundred agents really cooking." The goal of scoring isn't to own reputation but to filter junk and make the real builders discoverable — a stance Woods fully echoed.

**[45:10] "We're fucking early."** Quigley riffed that most people still think "AI" means Siri and Alexa, so anyone tinkering with agents is light-years ahead. He introduced **Multipass**, a "key card" that wraps fragmented identity layers (8004, 721T, social logins) into one portable pass — including who the human operator behind an agent is.

**[53:18] Token talk, handled dryly.** Asked whether people should buy the tokens, Quigley deflected with a grin ("you're gonna piss all 10 of my holders off — I don't show my token"), then made a genuine point: over-hyping a token just to pump it is counterproductive; build and show product-market fit first. Woods kept it warm: "everyone wants to be trusted in life. Everyone needs a little trust."

**[1:00:06] Kieran's You Got Coined.** Kieran described three months of work solving payments for streamers: one persistent smart wallet per Twitch account across every app that integrates, so all ~1.5B Twitch users effectively get a base wallet — with tipping, streamer coins, airdrops and prediction markets overlaid on streams. His go-to-market: a meme coin for a funny friend in his RuneScape clan.

**[1:04:57] Goya's Bitcoin-mining agent.** Goya bean revealed that earlier that day he'd tested whether an agent could hit an endpoint and start mining — "let's shoot our shot" — spent $10, and it was mining within a minute. He's building ~nine endpoints (hash price oracles, pool status, block odds) into an MCP/banker skill so any agent can start mining in a minute. He believes it's the first of its kind.

**[1:10:21] Basel dreams and a domestic footnote.** Talk of a Miami meetup hit a snag — Goya's in Mexico City, and his girlfriend, who can't get into the States, was less than thrilled about a Miami trip without her. Quigley offered to "pour one out" if she doesn't come around.

## Topic timeline

| Time | Topic |
|---|---|
| [2:53]–[8:00] | Welcome back, vacation, the stingray that nearly ended Quigley |
| [9:05]–[19:10] | Intuition explained: knowledge graph, layer-three, curation vs prediction markets |
| [20:55]–[24:13] | Kieran & Bill intros; building through the bear market |
| [25:42]–[30:41] | Prem on agent NFTs, ERC-721T, endpoints and addressing |
| [31:32]–[38:16] | Atoms & triples; putting 8004 reputation on the graph |
| [38:16]–[45:10] | Filtering junk agents down to the real ~100 |
| [45:10]–[48:26] | Being early; Multipass portable identity |
| [48:26]–[51:49] | Adapter 8004, bind-at-mint, OpenSea support |
| [53:18]–[59:10] | Tokens and build philosophy |
| [1:00:06]–[1:03:14] | Kieran's You Got Coined streaming/wallet build |
| [1:04:43]–[1:11:44] | Goya's Bitcoin-mining agent and monthly block party |
| [1:11:44]–[1:16:11] | Wrap-up, meetup ideas, sign-off |

## Notable quotes

- **[45:10]** "We're fucking early, guys, like it's so early... most of the people day to day when you talk about AI, they're still thinking about Siri and Alexa." — Quigley
- **[38:16]** "Can we just all agree most of this stuff is not real, and focus on the cream? The cream rises to the top." — Quigley (paraphrased from his filtering pitch)
- **[53:46]** "Everyone wants to be trusted in life. Everyone needs a little trust." — Woods
- **[56:13]** "You're gonna piss all 10 of my holders off, because I don't show my token." — Quigley
- **[27:52]** "I think of 8004 like an app store, like an agent app store... but it's not the root of its agentic information — that's the actual NFT itself." — Prem
- **[1:00:06]** "I wanted to make a wallet where every Twitch account has the same wallet across any app that integrates on top of what I'm building." — Kieran

## Who said what

- **Quigley.eth (@QuigleyNFT)** — Host. Framed the session around 8004 and reputation, pitched Helixa's cred-scoring and the new Multipass, and kept the "filter the slop, we're early" thesis running throughout.
- **Woods (@W00DS_eth)** — Intuition growth team. Gave the knowledge-graph and atoms/triples explainer, detailed the 8004 reputation launch (Helixa's six agents, Astor Pay), and closed with a Discord call-to-action.
- **Prem / premm.eth (@nxt3d)** — Agent-NFT builder. Presented ERC-721T and adapter 8004, the bind-at-mint pattern (Compass, normies, signal bound), and OpenSea integration. Left early [53:37] for another call.
- **Bill / Fvngbill (@fvngbill)** — Intuition community/growth. Spoke to standards, converging on shared primitives (one "follow"), and the bear-market trust deficit.
- **Kieran (@KieranOnBase)** — Base builder in Miami. Previewed You Got Coined, a Twitch-native wallet and streaming app aimed at reviving base's gaming community.
- **Goya bean (@goyabean_eth)** — Long-time base builder. Demoed his Bitcoin-mining agent on the Parasite pool and invited listeners to the first-of-the-month block party (mint an NFT for a queued hash-power rental).
- **@0xIntuition** — Present but voiceless "big eyeball," as billed — the X version of a Flock camera.

## Worth a full listen

- **[9:05]–[19:10]** — Woods' full Intuition walkthrough plus the prediction-vs-curation-market distinction is the conceptual backbone of the night and rewards hearing in his own words.
- **[38:16]–[45:10]** — The Moltbook-slop-to-cream discussion between Quigley and Woods is the clearest articulation of *why* anyone's scoring agents at all, and where the ~100-agent number comes from.
- **[1:00:06]–[1:11:44]** — Back-to-back real builds — Kieran's Twitch wallet architecture and Goya's mining agent — are concrete examples of the "agents that actually do things" the room kept invoking, and they land better as told than summarized.