# $WAGBi x $WIFB — Build on @base, Ep. 3

**Host:** WIFB on Base (@WIFBonBase) with WAGBi (@WAGBi_) and ThatOneKitty.base.eth (@ThatOneKitty__) · Wed, Oct 7 · ~1:54 · ~12 active voices

## TL;DR
- Episode 3 of the joint $WAGBi × $WIFB Base builder space: part show-and-tell, part open mic, with the "jumbotron" permanently renamed the **Kitty Tron** [21:13].
- **XyoPanda.Base.Eth** gave the deepest segment of the night — a full walkthrough of Panda Financial: non-custodial automated liquidity management, a Morpho/Coinbase-backed USDC vault, an upcoming APY hunter bot, and meme-token buybacks that go into a 3-of-5 multisig treasury and are never sold [37:18]–[35:03].
- **Token 2049 New York (June 16–17)** became a rallying point: Xyo applied for a Panda Financial booth, and a Base crew is forming to show up in Wagby hard hats. A group chat is being created [1:11:54].
- **All Your Base Are Belong To You** dropped the date for the **Base Meme Summit — next Thursday, 11am EST, in the metaverse** — and asked every project to bring a working call-to-action, not a roadmap [1:40:00-ish segment starting at 1:39:50]. AYB is launching their token-backed NFT at the same time, three years in the making.
- Running thread: can you reverse-engineer the Loopers agent-NFT model? Consensus from Xyo, Intern and AYB — yes, it's all public on-chain; Wagby wants ~20 agent NFTs for day-one holders.
- **Toastymfer** spilled genuine AI-video alpha: lock down character fidelity, then give the model maximum creative freedom — "AI is extremely creative, like ridiculously creative" [13:00-ish, see quotes].

## Highlights

**[5:53] Toastymfer on the state of the Wagby content machine.** Websites, NFTs, games, songs — "we've been doing this for a while now, since what, January, February." He framed Wagby less as a token and more as everyone he met during the bear market, with the argument that promoting the people around you elevates everyone's signal.

**[11:23] The prompting masterclass.** Toasty explained that he feeds Grok shader code and mathematical formulas rather than only English, then talks to it in plain language to reshape the shader — which lets the camera and objects behave in ways normal prompting can't reach. His stated alpha: be strict only where it matters (character fidelity, color tone) and leave everything else open. He's been dialing the psychedelia *down*, because people apparently prefer "a middle ground, a little bit more comfortable for the eye and then still a little bit trippy."

**[15:24] A friendly diagnosis, resisted.** When WAGBi admitted his AI videos keep slopping, Toasty went straight to the base image — specifically a little black spot on the hard hat that he suspects is spawning stray cat ears mid-video. WAGBi: "Don't you dare call me out on that." (The ears, it was eventually conceded, do sometimes spawn.)

**[19:03] Token 2049 NYC.** XyoPanda confirmed June 16–17 in New York, a submitted booth application for Panda Financial, and that he's going either way. The vision escalated quickly: Wagby hard hats, Wagby wristbands, stickers slapped on strangers, and Waldo proposing a Mr. Peanut outfit, monocle included. WAGBi's gentle counterproposal at [1:14:17]: "We gotta be normal."

**[29:03] Waldo on why the Base team doesn't engage.** Responding to WAGBi's frustration that a Base app lead didn't even like his post, Waldo laid out the structural read: as a Base-themed cat token, Wagby is competing with the cabal's own bags, so a Jesse reshare isn't coming. His landing note was warm, not bleak — "You don't need it though. You got us."

**[34:13] Buybacks that function as burns.** Xyo announced that Base meme token buybacks are now part of the Panda Financial flywheel: tokens go to a 3-of-5 multisig treasury, are never sold, and are held indefinitely — "essentially burned because it's just gonna sit in our treasury the whole time locked up forever."

**[1:02:30] Always audit the vibe code.** Xyo's cautionary tale: he gave Claude a full spec for a **B20** token contract, came back two days later, and Claude cheerfully reported the **ERC-20** was ready. His workflow recommendation — audit in Remix, then take that audit to a second auditor, then pay for a real one if you can afford it, noting that most paid auditors are running AI audits anyway.

**[1:25:00-ish, from 1:24:57] Shockwavedragons on Love Town.** A rebuilt site, a meme-contest tool compatible with any Base token, and a town where projects buy houses and put up billboards with their tickers. The contest hook that caught the room: voters must hold your token to vote, so you're converting meme fans into holders. WAGBi described watching a previous one finish "like a horse race" [1:28:12].

**[1:35:00-ish, from 1:34:40] Panda on why joint spaces work.** The Panda Pows founder's read on the Wagby/WIFB merge — two smaller communities in the same cat theme, combining for reach — plus the mutual-accountability trick he and Waldo use: one throws up a space, the other is obligated to show, "but it's in the best way possible."

**[1:39:50] Base Meme Summit date drop.** AYB announced Thursday, 11am EST, in a community member's metaverse build, with clippers invited to push it beyond Base. His ask of every project: not "our community is great," but a live, usable call to action — "that we have this ready right now. That's what it does" [1:45:04]. Kitty immediately volunteered the WIFB Telegram meme bot as a candidate.

**[1:50:47] Is the agent-NFT thing a fad?** Waldo's question — will this still matter in a year, or does it go the way of the Claude lobster bots? AYB's answer: the token-backed NFT concept already propagated into pack-opening and rip sites, and the attached wallet is "another layer" with real functionality, because an NFT with a wallet can transfer a whole bag of tokens as one package.

## Topic timeline

| Time | Topic |
|---|---|
| [1:37]–[4:41] | Intro, Wagby theme song, shout-outs (Brandon's website and song playlist) |
| [5:24]–[15:09] | Toastymfer on AI video, shader-code prompting, creative freedom vs. strict prompts |
| [15:24]–[17:24] | WAGBi's Higgsfield troubles, spawning cat ears, base-image diagnosis |
| [17:24]–[21:13] | Samrex, XyoPanda intro, Token 2049 NYC, 3D figurines of community PFPs |
| [21:13]–[26:11] | Kitty Tron naming, Waldo's "cancel the scheduled space" hosting heist |
| [26:11]–[31:01] | Getting Base's attention; the cabal read; Wagby merch at conferences |
| [32:32]–[48:50] | Panda Financial deep dive: vaults, automated LP management, APY hunter, buybacks, fees |
| [49:10]–[58:34] | Intern's question on token vaults; Panda Pass NFT + token launch plan; Aerodrome gauges |
| [58:41]–[1:08:19] | Reverse-engineering Loopers; agent NFTs; vibe coding and auditing |
| [1:09:14]–[1:17:38] | Buddies, Token 2049 meetup logistics, Where's Waldo at the conference |
| [1:18:17]–[1:23:03] | Intern's PFP, 3D printing plans, Röcky's karaoke-bar IRL community |
| [1:23:13]–[1:30:48] | WIFB update (ambassadors, Telegram bot); Shockwavedragons on Love Town & meme contests |
| [1:31:02]–[1:37:56] | Panda Pows update: staking UI, payment gateways, why joint spaces work |
| [1:37:56]–[1:47:08] | Sparks voice/branding; Base Meme Summit announcement; call-to-action advice |
| [1:48:04]–[1:53:17] | AYB on copying Loopers, token-bound accounts, whether agent NFTs stick |

## Notable quotes

> "AI is extremely creative, like ridiculously creative. So if you start to limit what it can do in your prompts... you're going to reduce that sort of fun creativity." — Toastymfer [13:00]

> "You're a conflict of interest, Wagby... you created literally a Base cat that's competition with Base cat." — Waldo [28:18]

> "You don't need it though. You got us." — Waldo [29:03]

> "At the moment I make absolutely no money. I run the platform out of the kindness of my heart." — XyoPanda.Base.Eth [46:33]

> "I don't do much in the timelines other than show up, but all like the people around me, they build dope shit. The website's from Brandon, all the content's from Toasty. Intern is intern. He's supposed to take notes, but they come out, you know, pretty shoddy." — Waldo [1:47:08]

> "It's not 'we're working on this.' That we have this ready right now. That's what it does." — All Your Base Are Belong To You, on what to bring to the Meme Summit [1:45:04]

## Who said what

- **WAGBi (@WAGBi_)** — co-host and main mic-runner; cycled through speakers, pitched a 20-piece agent-NFT collection for day-one holders, and took the ribbing about his AI videos in good humor.
- **ThatOneKitty.base.eth (@ThatOneKitty__)** — co-host, christened the Kitty Tron, gave the WIFB update (ambassador program, Telegram meme bot) and spent part of the space quietly worried her connection would rug the room.
- **Toastymfer (@ewwwtoasty1)** — the content engine; explained his shader-code prompting method and repeatedly turned the mic toward supporting other builders.
- **XyoPanda.Base.Eth (@XyoPanda)** — longest technical stretch of the night: Panda Financial's architecture, fee model, NFT pass → token launch sequence, Aerodrome gauge constraints, and his Claude ERC-20/B20 mishap. Also organizing the Token 2049 Base meetup.
- **Waldo (@waldoforrealz)** — resident realist and resident bit-generator; the cabal analysis, the space-scheduling heist, the Mr. Peanut plan, the donkey-milk defense, and the "is this a fad?" question that produced the night's best answer.
- **All Your Base Are Belong To You (@AllYourBase_AYB)** — announced the Base Meme Summit date and venue, pitched Sparks, and explained token-bound NFT wallets and why he thinks they're infrastructure rather than a trend.
- **Shockwavedragons (@shockwaved91117)** — presented Love Town and the meme-contest tool, open to running contests for any Base project, with a live contest closing Sunday.
- **Panda (@PandaPals__)** — Panda Pows update on staking UI, multi-payment gateway plans, and a thoughtful aside on cross-community accountability.
- **Intern (@BlackRoseOfTHC)** — back from "retirement"; asked about token vaults for small projects, finishing a crop game build, and plotting a 3D print of his salt-shaker PFP.
- **Samrex (@SamrexOBA)**, **Chicharito ~ d chain guy (@DjChicharitoX)**, **Röcky (@Rockchilld3)**, **Brandon (@notbrvnd0n)** — check-ins and support; Röcky's karaoke-bar neighbors, it turns out, had no idea he raps.

## Worth a full listen

- **[11:23]–[16:20]** — Toasty's prompting method and the base-image diagnosis back-to-back. Genuinely useful technique, and the exchange about phantom cat ears is funnier in real time than in summary.
- **[37:18]–[48:50]** — XyoPanda's uninterrupted explanation of why automated financial tooling is gatekept in the US and how he's rebuilding it non-custodially. Dense, sincere, and hard to compress without losing the reasoning.
- **[1:39:50]–[1:53:17]** — The Meme Summit announcement into the agent-NFT debate, with Waldo pressing on whether this narrative survives the year and AYB walking through token-bound wallets. Also where the keynote-poster invisible-ink bit lives.