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Re:Envisioning Web3 | 1-1 Fireside Chat with Jed and J.P. MoreGainz

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TL;DR

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  • Friday fireside with J.P. MoreGainz (@jp_moregainz) — Long Island kid, classically trained saxophonist, Northwestern theater major turned mortgage quant — walking through how he went from modeling agency MBS collateral to going all-in on NFTs.
  • A long, genuinely instructive explainer on 2008, Fannie/Freddie conservatorship, quantitative easing, and why he thinks today's mortgage market runs on perverse incentives — which is also the origin story of why he wanted hard money.
  • The warmest part of his crypto story: his 63-year-old TradFi father was the only person in his life who got it, bought Bitcoin and ETH on his recommendation, and later let him use his accredited-investor credentials for the MegaETH ICO.
  • J.P. shared that after a hemorrhagic stroke in December at 31, a recent MRI revealed a golf-ball-sized brain tumor; surgery is scheduled for May 11. He asked the room explicitly not to feel sorry for him.
  • Jed and Lyss talked up the regen/DeStefano's restaurant initiative as the IRL anchor for the community; J.P. said regens have given him more real-world utility than his punk or his ape.
  • SLICK RIC closed with a prayer for J.P. and an offer of his personal phone number, and Jed played out with a DeStefano's tribute track made by someone who's never set foot in the place.

Highlights

At 6:03

Cold open: no purple pill, so we're doing music instead.

Lyss welcomed the room, noted "Elon is in a mood today" so there was no purple pill, and pointed everyone to the rescreen link to share the Space manually. The pre-show was a full motivational set — the ET sermon at 12:01 through 16:06 ran hot enough that Jed came out of it saying he listens to one every day.

At 16:23

Jed sets the table.

"Most of the time we have like founders on here, but JP got a story to tell, and I really want to talk to him." He'd hung out with J.P. twice at the restaurant in two weeks. SLICK RIC at 17:41 added that these story spaces are his favorites, and that from the birthday trivia night he'd already clocked J.P. as dangerously smart. Jed, concurring: "The dude can break my brain, bro."

At 19:19

The circuitous route into finance.

Theater major at Northwestern, performance then set/lighting/sound design, then a hard look at the economics of the industry — once a show closes you're between jobs. The hinge moment: flipping channels and spotting Anthony Scaramucci, whose kids he'd done chorus and theater with, on CNBC. "I didn't understand half of what he was talking about, but I was very interested." He read his way into the jargon, landed a software-testing internship at a mortgage analytics firm, taught himself Python, and got pulled into the quant desk.

At 31:34

The 2008 explainer.

A long, patient walkthrough of why Fannie and Freddie failed — lenders offloading credit risk the moment a loan closed, Alt-A collateral quietly creeping between prime and subprime, house price appreciation papering over the losses. Jed, who spent 15 years on Wall Street, offered the floor view at 39:40: "They gave everybody money knowing they're gonna pay it... I feel like you're trying to like sugarcoat a little bit what happened."

At 47:35

The perverse incentive that pushed him toward crypto.

His core thesis: post-QE, agency MBS are "effectively just glorified treasuries" with no credit risk to the end investor. A borrower who defaults loses his home; the bondholder just gets paid back early — and in a rising-rate environment that's actually good for the bondholder. "It used to be the case that investors and borrowers' interests were kind of perfectly aligned." That misalignment is why hard money and on-chain collateral appealed to him 54:52.

At 59:04

Dad apes in.

The emotional center of the crypto half. In 2020 J.P. sold most of his gold and silver, bought BTC and ETH, and talked his father — commercial real estate debt, 63 years old — into some. He's still holding. Later 1:03:12, when the MegaETH ICO was gated behind accredited-investor rules J.P. didn't meet, he asked to invest through his dad's credentials, and his dad not only agreed but asked to be put down for some himself. "He didn't give me money, he just gave me the opportunity to invest my own money in the way that I wanted to."

At 1:00:31

On being the only one in the room.

Despite being in crypto since his early 20s, he had nobody to talk to about it — no friends, no colleagues at the mortgage firm, just a couple of people making altcoin punts for a quick buck. He traces his November entry into NFTs directly to that loneliness, and at 1:13:05 described the Cryptopunks brunch in Palo Alto: "I felt complete, I felt like I was with my people."

At 1:15:23

"I kind of caught the bug."

Lyss, after listening to him narrate a V1 punk, a mutant ape, a bored ape, a good vibes club, a crypto dickbutt, Orkhan pieces and finally the punk in his PFP, had to step in: "I'm just dying here because you said I kind of caught the bug... Yeah, we know that's not true." Jed's addendum at 1:16:42: for all of it, "you've got more utility from regens than... your crypto punk, more than your bored ape."

At 1:20:00

The health news.

J.P. laid it out plainly: a hemorrhagic stroke back in December at 31, blamed at the time on 12–13 hour days and all-nighters, with a small permanent loss of upper-left peripheral vision. Two weeks before the Space, with the blood finally drained enough for a clear MRI, they found a golf-ball-sized, well-defined, slow-growing tumor in the visual processing region. Surgery is May 11. He weighed it against the fact that this is simultaneously one of the happiest stretches of his adult life, and asked the room not to worry — then opened his DMs to anyone dealing with something similar.

At 1:32:28

Slick's prayer.

SLICK RIC asked permission, then prayed for J.P. by name, closing with the line that landed hardest: "let him know that there is real people in Web3." He followed it with a rundown of how the regulars actually check on each other — a FaceTime with Woof, calls with Jed, calls with Lyss — and offered J.P. his personal phone number.

Topic timeline

TimeTopic
0:56–6:03Pre-show music, no purple pill
6:03–16:06Welcome, intro music and ET motivational set
16:23–18:33Co-host and guest intros
19:19–29:48J.P.'s background: theater, Scaramucci, breaking into mortgage analytics
29:48–39:40Mortgage market structure, agency vs. non-agency, 2008
39:40–54:18QE, conservatorship, prepayment vs. credit risk, perverse incentives
54:52–1:02:30Why crypto; sound money; his father aping in; years of isolation
1:03:12–1:06:00MegaETH ICO and accredited-investor gatekeeping
1:06:00–1:15:23Entering NFTs: punks, apes, Orkhan, digital art, IRL events
1:16:42–1:20:00Regens, the restaurant, Del Mundos
1:20:00–1:28:31The stroke, the tumor, the May 11 surgery
1:28:31–1:35:52Lyss and Slick on why the room shares these stories; prayer
1:36:05–1:40:40Closing thanks and the DeStefano's track

Notable quotes

I didn't understand half of what he was talking about, but I was very interested. So I sort of kept on listening.

J.P. MoreGainz on discovering finance via a Scaramucci TV hit 20:48
0:38

They gave everybody money knowing they're gonna pay it, bro. That's the bottom line... I was on Wall Street 15 years, so I feel like you're trying to like sugarcoat a little bit what happened.

Jed 39:40
0:38

Mortgage backed securities are effectively just glorified treasuries.

J.P. MoreGainz 51:53
0:38

He didn't give me money, he just gave me the opportunity to invest my own money in the way that I wanted to.

J.P. MoreGainz on his father and the ICO 1:05:49
0:38

I've made more friends in the past four or five months than I have in years.

J.P. MoreGainz 1:13:05
0:38

Let him know that there is real people in Web3, and that people that are really here to be here for each other.

SLICK RIC, closing his prayer 1:34:31
0:38

Who said what

  • Jed (@jed_131) — host. Opened, set the frame that this was a story space rather than a founder pitch, brought 15 years of Wall Street floor experience to the 2008 segment, and connected personally to the medical news through his ex-wife's brain surgery 1:30:21. Closed the room with the DeStefano's track and "we will be the hub of web three."
  • Lyss (@Lysss302) — co-host. Ran housekeeping, steered the conversation from mortgage mechanics to the human story at 54:18, called out J.P.'s wild understatement about his own collecting, and gave the closing thoughts on vulnerability and why "IRL is the alpha" 1:28:31.
  • J.P. MoreGainz (@jp_moregainz) — guest, and effectively the whole middle of the Space: theater-to-quant career, a detailed and generous teardown of the mortgage market, his crypto conviction, his father's trust, his NFT run since November, and finally his stroke and upcoming surgery.
  • SLICK RIC (@richj530) — came early to say these are his favorite kind of spaces, then closed with a prayer for J.P. and a standing offer of his phone number to anyone who needs it.

Worth a full listen

  • 31:34–54:18 The 2008-to-today mortgage explainer. It's dense and unscripted ("I didn't really have a structure for this so I'm just gonna go"), but it's a rare, clearly-explained walk through conservatorship, QE, reserve ratios and why prepayment risk now matters more than credit risk — with Jed cutting in from the trading floor side.
  • 59:04–1:06:00 The father thread. The 63-year-old commercial real estate lender being the single open-minded person in a young quant's life, from a sub-$10k Bitcoin buy to lending his accredited-investor status for the MegaETH ICO.
  • 1:20:00–1:35:52 The health disclosure and the room's response, straight through Lyss's reflection on why people share and Slick's prayer. No summary carries the tone of this stretch.
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