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Re:Envisioning Web3 | What do you want from your NFTs?

Part 1 was a false start — a single mic check — so the whole conversation lives in Part 2. Timestamps below are labeled by part so the replay links land correctly.

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TL;DR

the one-minute version
  • Jed opened a genuinely confused, slightly frustrated question: what do people actually want from NFTs — IP, utility/yield, or just collecting? — and asked the room to answer honestly P2 16:00.
  • The consensus: the recent floor pain isn't a signal of failure. Cab and others tied it to thin liquidity, rotation into new plays like Stonkbrokers, and the fact that FUD is simply cheap engagement P2 17:44.
  • A recurring theme: invest in people, not projects, and give founders grace to experiment (Slick Ric, Cab, J Rock).
  • Sho pushed back gently on the "make money" frame — she's here to belong and collect, not flip — leading to a warm back-and-forth with Jed about what "winning" even means P2 34:50.
  • Cab delivered the intellectual centerpiece: originality "begins with questioning the default," price dips aren't proof an idea is wrong, and the restaurant/Spaces are incubators where the next big thing gets born P2 42:27.
  • Tim reframed the whole space through accredited-investor rules, warning that people are angel-investing on emotion without the backing to survive it P2 1:16:07. A "Take 3" Jed Talk is teased for Monday.

Highlights

At P2 0:31

The bipolar restart

After Part 1 died at the one-minute mark, Jed rebooted the room mid-meltdown, cueing up an emotional ballad, cutting it off ("no fucking negativity here, bro"), and yanking it back to "the upbeat shit." Cab summed up the reboot perfectly: "I bet Jed pulled an unknown" — and Jed vowed to clip it: "even Cab's called me unk" P2 6:55.

At P2 8:27

Brooklyn dinner logistics and the catchup line in the sand

Cab confirmed a crew of Claynosaurz holders will finally visit the steakhouse, including one who owns a winery in Mexico and wants to bring bottles ("This is Brooklyn," Jed assured him, "we'll open whatever we want"). Sho's threat to smuggle in a Pepsi drew mock-heartbreak from Lyss, and Jed set the house rules: no ketchup on the steak P2 13:30.

At P2 16:00

Jed poses the real question

Web3 has him annoyed. He can't tell whether people are salty about NFTs that yield rewards or genuinely don't want them, and he framed a new tension: not just PvP flipping anymore, but "IP versus utility." His own answer: he wants an NFT that yields something and lets him "ride the train and watch the company build" P2 17:11.

At P2 17:44

Cab and the FUGs whale on why the charts hurt

Cab argued FUD is just easy engagement from people "left on the sidelines" who now get to dance on the grave. A FUGs holder (Yot)* added a sobering real story: a longtime whale dumped 25–30 FUGs in 24 hours into Robin Hood and is down 50%+ across the board — "such a harsh lesson" that money always flows to attention, not necessarily to what's substantial P2 20:11.

At P2 26:02

Slick Ric: invest in people, give grace

The room's longest early take. He described a tribalized space where the salty are often those who "never put the work in," said he bought a Claynosaur at the top and doesn't care because he backs the individuals, and recounted the "steak hub" idea going from a backdoor conversation to reality. His refrain: "I don't want to own the train, I want to own the guardrails" P2 30:25.

At P2 34:50

Sho and Jed on collecting vs. winning

The warmest exchange of the night. Sho insisted it's okay to just collect and belong — she has 22 quirkies she worked hard for and won't FUD anyone's win. Jed pressed on what she actually wants; she conceded that if quirkies hit 10 ETH she'd absolutely sell some — "I don't understand me either sometimes" P2 38:15 — while both agreed there's room for every kind of holder.

At P2 42:27

Cab's deep dive: originality and the incubator

Citing Adam Grant's Originals, Cab argued the space is in a "fuck around and find out" discovery phase, that a price dump means "people don't get it yet," not that the idea is wrong, and that humans are "perpetually allergic to change." He then compared the restaurant to a beatnik-era coffee shop P2 48:10 — a safe space where two people might meet over a year and start something that changes the game.

At P2 56:33

Wealthy on family — and chores

After a heartfelt take on community, unity and decentralization as the real point of NFTs, Wealthy landed the room's favorite deadpan: what he really wants is for his NFTs to cook dinner, wash some clothes, and cut the grass. Jed followed with a serious note for young holders: building with IP is expensive, but networking is free and invaluable P2 57:51.

At P2 1:00:10

Tim's angel-investor reality check

Tim collects for "art, community, or vision," and warned that people treat brand-new mints like angel investing when Apple, Meta and Google each took years to IPO. Later he explained the actual accredited-investor income/net-worth requirements exist to protect people, and that most in the space "are acting on emotion and not on research" P2 1:16:07. Jed's TL;DR: "Tim has at least a million liquid in the bank... and he makes at least 500,000 a year." Cab: "His vocabulary is too good" P2 1:17:27.

At P2 1:04:27

J Rock's closing sermon

A sprawling, generous take on the different tribes in the ecosystem — dreamers, networkers, would-be angels — and a hunt for founders "who build when there's nothing to build for." His mother's line carried the room: if the FUD's gone, you're not building hard enough P2 1:08:49.

Topic timeline

Time (Part 2)Topic
P2 0:31–P2 3:38Chaotic musical restart; Jed reboots the room
P2 3:38–P2 16:00Co-host/guest check-ins, Brooklyn dinner planning, banter
P2 16:00–P2 26:00The core question: FUD, low liquidity, the FUGs whale story
P2 26:00–P2 33:00Slick Ric: invest in people, give grace, the hub
P2 33:00–P2 39:00Sho vs. Jed on collecting vs. winning
P2 39:00–P2 50:00Cab: originality, "fuck around and find out," the incubator
P2 50:00–P2 58:00Geist (football club) & Wealthy (family, unity)
P2 58:00–P2 1:04:00Instrumental (membership) & Tim (angel-investor lens)
P2 1:04:00–P2 1:12:00J Rock's closing sermon
P2 1:12:00–P2 1:21:00Cab's equity play, Tim on accredited investing, wrap

Notable quotes

It's really easy to get engagement when you... fud on Twitter.

Cab P2 17:44
0:38

We don't temper to shame, but if you ask the catch up, we will shame you.

Jed P2 13:30
0:38

Originality begins with questioning the default.

Cab P2 43:57
0:38

The last point, what I would like my NFTs to do — I would like my NFTs to cook dinner sometime, you know, maybe they could wash some clothes... cut the grass.

Wealthy P2 56:33
0:38

If the footers aren't around, that means you're not building hard enough... if you're not getting FUD, you're not doing it right.

J Rock P2 1:08:49
0:38

Most people in this space are acting on emotion and not on research.

Tim P2 1:16:07
0:38

Who said what

  • Jed (host, @jed_131): Steakhouse owner running the show from the restaurant floor; posed the central question, played provocateur on "what do you actually want," and kept the tone warm and self-deprecating.
  • Lyss (co-host, @Lysss302): Managed the guest queue and the wrap; teed up the schedule, the NYC meetup, and Monday's spicier "Jed Talk" sequel.
  • SLICK RIC (co-host, @richj530): Long "invest in people, not projects" thesis; give founders grace, back the doxxed, "own the guardrails, not the train."
  • Cab (@Cabanimation): The room's analyst — FUD as cheap engagement, low-liquidity rotations, Originals-flavored deep dive, and the Claynosaurz equity play as a way to put collectors on the ground floor without the downside.
  • Sho (@AgogoKaren): The honest counterweight — here to collect and belong, not flip; sparked the night's warmest exchange with Jed.
  • Wealthy (@WealthySupreme): Family, unity, and decentralization as the real payoff — plus the deadpan wish for chore-doing NFTs.
  • Tim (@tim_8093): Reframed NFTs through IPO timelines and accredited-investor rules; research over emotion.
  • J Rock (@JusCrypto88): Closing sermon on the ecosystem's many tribes and backing founders who build in the down market.
  • Geist (@Geist254): NFTs as a football club — wear the shirt, want the team to win, just ask founders to do what they say and improve daily.
  • Instrumental (@instrumental250): It's a membership; raised funds for Jamie's fund; the real value is access to people and information.
  • Bored Osaka (@BoredOsaka1): Collects for the smile they bring, plans to 3D-print his NFTs, and praised Cab's "carnival" booth at NFT Paris.
  • Yot (@yotdog69)*: Early banter and the FUGs-whale cautionary tale on liquidity chasing attention.
  • Superhighgasfees (@SHGFees): Ceded time so the room could keep going into his own 6pm space.

Worth a full listen

  • P2 39:45–P2 49:33 Cab's deep dive. A rare, unhurried monologue connecting Silicon Valley bets, Adam Grant's Originals, and why a dumping floor doesn't mean the idea is broken — capped by the restaurant-as-incubator analogy. The summary can't carry the throughline.
  • P2 33:23–P2 38:51 Sho and Jed. A genuinely thoughtful, affectionate disagreement about whether "winning" is the point of NFTs at all; the value is in the give-and-take, not the conclusion.
  • P2 1:16:00–P2 1:21:00 Tim's accredited-investor breakdown into the wrap. Tim's most substantive point lands right before the comic sendoff — Jed's finance TL;DR, the Geist-voice bit, and Jed "profusely sweating in the foyer" while a coworker looks at him like he's crazy.

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