Highlights
Loki's week in review.
Loki rattled off the week's news: Cleanosaurs on Amazon Prime, Final Bosu launching its memo platform, Pudgy's Kaka Wow partnership, Adam joining Yuga's board, D Gods launching a marketplace ("DBay"), and Chimpers beginning to bid its own floor as market-making — "first time ever, at least publicly."
Cab on the Amazon moment.
Cab gave a heartfelt read on Cleanosaurs streaming on Prime — "it's what we wanted four years ago." He pushed back gently on the "it's only three short episodes" crowd, framing it as a statement that a good Web3 product can walk through legacy doors. He admitted he only truly felt it when he saw it live on the platform: "oh fuck, I couldn't have imagined."
Adam Weitsman on the Yuga board.
In his first week on the job, Adam kept it grounded — "I don't really hype anything up" — but said a lot of past decisions will be changed and that with Figgy leading, Otherside "could really blow people away soon."
Adam on the Normies collab spree.
Adam described curating burn-to-art collabs for Normies — ACK first, then Beeple, Jack, and Larva Labs — and noted the flywheel has flipped: artists are now reaching out to him directly instead of him cold-calling.
The "Digicon" idea takes shape.
Off Adam's Fanatics Fest visit, he and Mac sketched a founders'-fest where every major collection sets up a fan-friendly booth — Bored Ape's clubhouse, Doodles' Doodleverse, Cleanotopia, the Azuki garden — piggybacking the same day as Fanatics Fest in New York. Adam offered to build it for next year and pull the majors in.
Cab on killing the NFT stigma.
Cab argued the events skew too "already-in-the-know" and should be framed on the collector side. His line landed: normies "cannot get past the word" NFT, but "no consumer on the planet gives a shit what's running under the hood for YouTube — they just care that the videos play." YouTube frames itself as a media company, not a tech company; NFTs should do the same.
Chesus on why community beats floor price.
Chesus told the story of his 13-year-old daughter ripping open a FWOG pack and pulling a gold on the very first box — "she started freaking out." He widened it into a case that the friends, the tears on the phone, the meetups are the point, not the money. His deadpan tribute to a Wells Fargo exec friend he'd never have met otherwise drew the biggest laugh of the day.
Should projects buy their own floors?
Loki asked whether floor-support bidding (Chimpers, GVC) is a viable strategy. Papii detailed how real bids get front-run by collection-bidding bots and how his team built one that bids trait backgrounds instead — but warned about sustainability. Cab was firmly in the "era of caution" camp: pegging a non-fungible collection to its lowest denominator is "absurd," and buying your own floor risks "falsifying demand" and burning treasury you need to actually build the brand. A tangent surfaced the old Ape "Damn DAO" wallet still holding a hundred-plus grail apes.
Steve Starobinsky's Pudgy retail masterclass.
Pudgy's head of partnerships introduced himself and dropped alpha: Polly & Pengu impulse plushies launching at Target that day at $10.99. He explained the Valentine's pop-up that revealed Pudgy had become a "couples brand," the shift in retail merchandising toward faster 30–60 day drops, and the Kaka Wow / Suplay deal that lets Pudgy condense years of Asia market entry — anchored by a signed Luca one-of-one card.
Topic timeline
| Time | Topic |
|---|---|
| 2:49–6:30 | Intro music, World Cup banter, warm-up |
| 7:14–14:00 | Speaker intros (Shills' human PFP, Atari, Big Rugg's rescued project, Chesus, Bosu kev) |
| 14:31–17:42 | Loki's week-in-NFTs news recap |
| 18:37–26:00 | Cab on Cleanosaurs / Amazon Prime & rising tides |
| 26:15–36:20 | Adam Weitsman: Yuga board, Normies collabs, Fanatics Fest / Digicon idea |
| 36:26–41:47 | Shills & Cab on physical–digital collectibles and reframing the stigma |
| 42:34–46:00 | Chesus & Big Rugg: community, physicals, why floor price isn't the point |
| 47:31–50:20 | Nuclear Samurai on Brain Rot's burn lab |
| 50:20–57:00 | Cleanosaurs cards / HEBO, Papii on Ant Academy account & OpenSea Solana |
| 57:41–1:11:20 | Floor-support bots, Chimpers, Damn DAO, treasury caution |
| 1:11:50–1:39:30 | Steve Starobinsky: Pudgy retail, Target, Kaka Wow, Target drops |
| 1:40:26–1:44:40 | D Gods' "DBay" marketplace |
| 1:45:09–1:51:23 | Bosu kev on Final Bosu's memo co-creation platform |
| 1:51:27–1:52:45 | Sign-off |
Notable quotes
And then when it was up on the platform, I was just like, oh fuck, like I couldn't I couldn't have imagined.
No consumer on the planet gives a shit what's running under the hood for YouTube — they just care that the videos play. But YouTube frames itself as a media company, not a tech company.
I'm surprised he's still married with the money he's lost in the space, but it doesn't matter. He still shows up.
When I read tweets saying NFTs are gone, NFTs are done, dead, whatever — are you stupid or what?
Floor price tells you the cost of entry, but not — and perhaps trust — but not much else.
Pudgy Penguins had become a love language for these couples. It was a co-fandom. And so we really felt like we had found product-market fit.
Who said what
- Loki (@lokithebird), Speaker 03 — Host anchoring the week's news and steering topics; pushed the floor-support and marketplace questions. Calling in late from Asia.
- Makaveli / Mac (@MakaveliDlaCruz), Speaker 05 — Co-host and hypeman on the decks; drove the Digicon vision and pressed Steve on card print numbers.
- proof (@the_alpha_dgn), Speaker 02 — Co-host MC, kept the "rising tides raise all ships" and "shots on goal" energy flowing between guests.
- Cab (@Cabanimation), Speaker 04 — Cleanosaurs' voice of the day: Amazon Prime win, reframing the NFT stigma, and the strongest caution against buying your own floor.
- Adam Weitsman (@AdamWeitsman), Speaker 10 — New Yuga board member; championed cross-artist Normies collabs and a founders'-fest tied to Fanatics Fest.
- Steve Starobinsky (@PudgyPartners), Speaker 01 — Pudgy head of partnerships; delivered the retail/licensing deep dive and the day's biggest product alpha.
- Chesus (@chesus), Speaker 08 — Community heart of the room; the FWOG gold-pull story and the "community over floor price" case.
- Papii (@RealPapii), Speaker 06 — Rallied support for Ant Academy's suspended account and gave the most technical read on floor-bidding bot mechanics.
- Shills (@Shills_81), Speaker 07 — Back after a break (and a briefly human PFP); on-the-ground notes from Lisbon and the Cleanosaurs card experience.
- Nuclear Samurai (@nuclearsamurai), Speaker 14 — Brain Rot's burn lab — ~944 of 10k burned in a week, collector-driven co-creation.
- Bosu kev (@kevinfinalbosu), Speaker 09 — Walked through Final Bosu's memo platform for holder-driven canon lore and character co-creation.
- Big Rugg (@ChiefNeckbone_), Speaker 11 — Rescuing a rugged project with a burn mechanic; big on TCG physicals bridging Web2 and Web3.
- Atari (@atarigod), Speaker 13 — Raised the "10k supply is too big for the current audience" question that framed much of the floor discussion.
Worth a full listen
- 42:34–46:00 Chesus and Big Rugg on community, physicals, and family collecting. The FWOG gold-pull and the Wells Fargo friend land better in full than any summary; this is the emotional and comic center of the room.
- 57:41–1:09:19 The floor-support bot debate. Papii's mechanics, Loki's framing, and Cab's "falsifying demand" caution add up to a genuinely useful conversation on treasury strategy, with the Damn DAO grail-apes tangent as a bonus.
- 1:11:50–1:32:39 Steve Starobinsky's uninterrupted retail walkthrough: the Valentine's pop-up, retail merchandising timelines, and the Kaka Wow/Suplay Asia deal. A rare inside look at how a Web3 brand actually scales into mass retail.
