Highlights
Showman phones in from the Ape Fest green room.
He's opening for Offset ("I thought offset would have opened up for me"), the room is tiny, and catering has failed him: "They got my writer wrong... I asked for a bottle of vodka. They all they have is a... Keurig machine in here." Burningbush supplied circus music as green-room ambience.
The first PFP change in five years.
Showman upgraded to a 3D version of himself made in ChatGPT — noting he doesn't actually own the NFT anymore. This escalated into a plan to relaunch the whole project, until he admitted he'd already burned through his ChatGPT subscription. The running joke of the night was born: Showman as the new founder of 3D Mories.
Sho reports back from a high school lip-sync musical.
Dragged there by her husband to support a patient's kid, she delivered a review that oscillated between "it was so bad" and a sincere "there's a place for everybody," all while audibly grinning. Burningbush: "So not only the show bully adults, but she also bullies children." Margie B later requested High School Musical be played in her honor.
The IP conversation starts.
Moon asked straight out what Burningbush's post was about. The answer: 48 hours of DMs from people building with his IP, some of whom had already shipped screenshots. His core argument — owning the NFT means owning the IP rights, and he'd had to sit down with Jed and Jed's dad before he could use the De Stefano's name in anything, because that's a real family business that predates Web3 and will outlast it 38:38.
Moon makes the counter-case, and it lands well.
His scenario: what if you build something in a test phase specifically to impress someone you admire, with their IP as a placeholder? Burningbush's reply became the practical takeaway of the night — use a generic placeholder, and if you're trying to impress someone, "then I'm the first person that sees it" 49:53. Both repeatedly stressed it wasn't directed at each other. Wizard1sgv added studio-side scar tissue: someone copy-pasted his game's store description verbatim, studio credit and all 41:11.
Jed on why tokens die.
A clear, unhyped explanation: most Web3 tokens launch with no sinks, so holders either sit or dump. Sinks (games, merch, utility) are coming in ~30 days. He walked through the Anvil mechanic — buy a floor regen, swap into any of the ~150 in the vault for about three dollars — and why he doesn't stake his own: more staked means a lower APR for everyone else.
"It's called fucking respect."
Jed's answer to people saying he glazes Burningbush too much — six weeks in the community and shipping at a pace he says he hasn't seen from blue-chip teams. Minutes later he was also the guy reporting that the Kowski canvas on the site looked crooked.
Monk comes up specifically to be roasted.
Showman went first — Avatar 4 casting, then "wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man" — and Burningbush followed with an extended interrogation of why the eyeball is on the helmet. Monk took it, said thanks, and left for his movie.
Live site surgery with a click heatmap.
Burningbush swapped the arcade and jukebox neon signs mid-space, defending it with data: 16 clicks on the jukebox ever, versus ~980 on the play button in the top right. Jed and Moon QA'd it in real time; chapter two of Regen Noir had gone live earlier that day with ~72 reads.
The hot seat with Pons Health.
Kyle, 30, Canadian, living in Bali six months on a work permit, building a health app. Thirty seconds, no fluff — "the quickest hot seat, and one of the better ones." He'd mentioned disliking AI slop minutes earlier, so Burningbush generated him a smooth-rock track called "By the Book" 2:18:06. Verdict: "if it wasn't like super super early right now, I'd be fucking running to that, bro."
A weekly comedy space, finally on the table.
Burningbush pitched the long-discussed Showman collab — a Web3 Kill Tony, X-only. Showman's reply after a beat of silence: "A comedy space is well overdue around here, I think."
Lyss closes the IP loop.
Asked directly by Moon for her take, she restated it plainly: check in with people, show the game, and extend the same courtesy to De Stefano's — "not only respect, but as we grow, you know, legally, it is going to matter."
Topic timeline
| Time | Topic |
|---|---|
| 00:07–06:00 | Tylenol, DaFameless gaming, TCG packs, general warm-up |
| 06:24–16:44 | Showman live from the Ape Fest green room; PFP change; circus/trading-bot bits |
| 16:47–19:57 | Wizard1sgv on inspiration from spaces; LinkedIn run by AI |
| 21:21–27:51 | Stand-up tangent: Kill Tony, Casey Rocket, Joe List, Doug Stanhope |
| 28:00–33:07 | Sho's lip-sync musical review; Showman considering doxxing |
| 33:19–52:57 | The main IP conversation: Burningbush, Moon, Wizard1sgv, Showman |
| 53:27–1:10:40 | Walter T Quirk gets kerfuffled; Margie B; Lord arrives; Fuzzy Felons post-mortem |
| 1:10:40–1:19:13 | Vegas check-in, impressions, Mories floor watch |
| 1:20:01–1:30:06 | Regen Noir pass giveaways, Anvil, rebucks, staking APR, token sinks |
| 1:31:03–1:34:38 | PFP roast session — Monk |
| 1:35:13–1:45:49 | Pokemon-card kids, Vegas logistics, live website updates |
| 1:46:35–2:05:32 | Showman gets humanized; "Jitterbug Jed" |
| 2:10:11–2:26:00 | Pons Health hot seat and custom song; Bali life |
| 2:26:22–2:40:00 | Comedy-space pitch; Vegas departure tracks |
| 2:40:41–2:53:07 | Lyss on IP; closing EDM anthem; goodbyes |
Notable quotes
Yeah, they got my writer wrong... I asked for a bottle of vodka. They all they have is a... Keurig machine in here.
That's the whole point of being in this space and owning NFTs, is that we own the IP rights to it.
And I'm not a gatekeeper... If you want to use my IP to shit on a toilet or whatever it is, pal, go ahead, pal.
It's not it's not glazing. It's called fucking respect.
Monk, you look like a wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man, pal.
If you haven't been called on, like if no one's ever called the cops on you, then you're not a real New York couple.
Who said what
- Burningbush (@BurningBush_eth) — host. Ran the music, the roasts and the hot seat; spent most of the night explaining why he wants eyes on any project using his IP before it exists, and shipped a live website change mid-conversation.
- SHOWMAN (@SHOWMANMORIE) — unofficial co-host from an Ape Fest green room. New 3D PFP, no NFT, no vodka, maximum permissionlessness: he wishes more people used his IP (voice excepted — that one costs money).
- Moon (@AfRedwave) — pressed the IP question openly and argued the builder's case (heat-of-the-moment prototypes, admiration as motive), while agreeing nothing ships without blessings. Also could not find the arcade on the website.
- Jed — calling in from Vegas; the night's clearest technical voice on token sinks, Anvil swaps and staking APR, plus the night's most sincere speech about what Burningbush has shipped in six weeks.
- Lyss (@Lysss302) — Vegas co-correspondent and closer: ask permission, show the work, and that includes De Stefano's. Also hustled three kids down from $20 to $8 on Pokemon singles as a business lesson.
- Wizard1sgv (@wizard1sgv) — game-studio co-owner of nearly 17 years; brought real-world IP-theft experience and the night's best fast-food takes.
- Sho (@AgogoKaren) — delivered the lip-sync musical field report; six regens, all staked, thank you very much.
- Pons Health / Kyle (@PonsHealth) — new face, aced the 30-second hot seat, building a fitness app from Bali, left with a custom song.
- Monk (@monkish) — came up purely to be roasted, achieved it, left.
- L o r d (@LoRdCrXpToSaNtO) — Modelos deep, got a Don Omar track and an art commission request from Showman.
- Margie B (@MargieAponte2) — song dedications and a direct request to be roasted.
- DaFameless (@DaFameless) — early co-pilot on the banter before calling it a night.
- Walter T Quirk (@WalterTQuirk) — arrived, got kerfuffled, dropped, returned, remained kerfuffled.
Worth a full listen
- 35:38–52:57 The IP conversation in full. It's the rare version of this debate where nobody's performing: Burningbush's reasoning about placeholders and keeping track of "where all my kids are," Moon's admiration-as-motive hypothetical, and Wizard1sgv's copy-paste horror story. A summary flattens the back-and-forth that makes it useful.
- 1:31:24–1:34:38 The Monk roast, including Showman's post-game self-critique of a fumbled Avatar bit. Comedy in and comedy about, in about three minutes.
- 2:02:55–2:05:32 "Jitterbug Jed," an AI song about a man with a big-button phone who keeps dropping out of spaces and who white-knuckled a flight to Vegas. Jed's own reaction afterward: "I think today I outshine this for the first time ever."



